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Dr Mehmet Yildiz's avatar

Dr Vinall and Dr Rice, thank you both for this insightful and inspiring conversation. Your points in this video deeply resonated with me. As a person who always uses nature for health and wellbeing improvement, your wise words reinforced my beliefs. I have followed Dr Rice for a while and learned from his insights on multiple platforms. Nice to meet you too, Dr Vinall.

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Dr Deborah Vinall's avatar

Dr. Mehmet, thanks so much for tuning in and the gift of your time! So glad it resonated. Let's stay connected!

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Dr. Bronce Rice's avatar

Dr Yildiz! Always a pleasure to see when you stop by :) I feel honored that our discussion resonated with you particularly since you are practiced in the art of health and wellness.

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Grace Grossmann's avatar

Oh yes, nature is THE MEDICINE to heal mental health issues. Lovely chat you two. 🥰

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Dr Deborah Vinall's avatar

It is! I just returned from a three hour hike with a friend. 🌲 So restorative.

Thank you for listening in!

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Dr. Bronce Rice's avatar

Thank you!

Fyi - I'm planning to put in a bit of legwork later today to figure out if we can schedule our Live.

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Grace Grossmann's avatar

Dw! We can just also show up! I've never scheduled my lives until now because substack doesn't seem to let me. We go with it Bronce! Nice seeing your cheery face. I'm excited for our talk.

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Dr. Bronce Rice's avatar

Me too!

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Dr Mike Broadly's avatar

Great to see my good friend Dr Rice talking in this fantastic video about a topic close to my heart. Nice to meet you too Dr Vinall. Thanks for tapping into the great mind of this lovely soul.

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Dr Deborah Vinall's avatar

Thank you for tuning in! I greatly enjoyed chatting with your friend Dr. Bronce. Nice to meet you as well!

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Dr. Bronce Rice's avatar

Dr Broadly - Thank you for watching Mate! My first Live :)

I was a bit nervous but important to convey how to think about taking care of ourselves in mind, body and spirit as you know.

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Fang Wei's avatar

Finally see the real deal 😃

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Dr. Bronce Rice's avatar

Yes! I did see the real deal Fang Wei! The real deal was Live yesterday with Simone Kornalijnslijper. 😉 You two crushed it!

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Fang Wei's avatar

Thank you 😀for your kind words!

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Dr. Bronce Rice's avatar

I thought you did an amazing job!

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Fang Wei's avatar

Thanks for the feedback! I instantly felt my energy soaring to the roof to “see” you all on live!

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Dr. Bronce Rice's avatar

I felt the same :))

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Matt's avatar

Trying to put this conversation between you and Dr Bronce Rice into perspective . My take is you’re promoting yourselves without any sense of the real world . The majority of folks do not have the time or finances to even consider anything you are dishing out for self help . Both of you have high incomes and are caught in the proverbial “ bubble “ of driving Tesla’s , shopping at Whole Foods and not having any comprehension of low class economics. Listen , I know you both have beautiful spirits and have a calling to make some sort of sense to everyday existence and hats off if you help only one human in your whole career. It might seem I’m throwing both of you under the bus but not true - just want to expose another reality check to “ self help “ folks that might presume they have the answers. FYI - you don’t. Again , let me drive this home … I respect your passion and titles but maybe try to bring these feel good chats to a level that can be digested by folks like Dave that beat the shit out of the gay couple up in Canada 🏳️‍🌈

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Dr Deborah Vinall's avatar

Hi Matt, I appreciate the gift of your time to read and listen. If you continue to read my work you'll find I do actually have a pretty deep understanding of low economic situations. I grew up with nothing navy trailer, I've been homeless, i do get it. I tried to bring the conversation back to the fact that not everyone has access to the same resources but I appreciate the note to continue to emphasize that and how self care can be tailored to every life.

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Matt's avatar

I just received a message from Dr Rice and was amazed at his response compared to yours . You were kind , compassionate , understanding and insightful to my abrasive tone …. he was not . There lies the problem with men & women 😞

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Matt's avatar

❤️ I hope I didn’t come off as too harsh . I constantly try to make sense of current events in the US . It definitely plays on my psyche and makes me bitter . I know you’re trying to do good and really love your embrace of the gay world . Truly hurts that we have been gifted with this glorious planet and humans just continue to fuck it up with hate , gluttony , toxic testosterone masculinity , apathy . I myself am 65 and find absolute peace in nature and the cosmos . Dr Carl Sagan summed it up in the pale blue dot . Thanks for replying 🕉️

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Dr Deborah Vinall's avatar

I get it. We're all under so much stress right now with this authoritarian regime rolling in and over us. And the divides between rich and poor are about to become more extreme. I hope we can hold on to our awareness of our common humanity and work together to make this place a bit better. So glad you're able to find peace in nature - keep getting out there! 🌱💚

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Dr. Bronce Rice's avatar

I'm disconnected from reality, have no comprehension of low class economics, drive a Tesla, shop at Whole Foods and have no sense of the real world. Interesting way to begin a "conversation".

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Matt's avatar

Also , I observed your body language when engaging with her ; interesting in the way you approached her responses . You can learn volumes by observation - too bad women don’t run our nation at this time in history 😞

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Dr. Bronce Rice's avatar

Projection is an interesting human dynamic Matt. As you mentioned, "It definitely plays on my psyche and makes me bitter - humans just continue to fuck it up with hate , gluttony , toxic testosterone masculinity , apathy ."

We do, at least, agree on who should be running our country at this time in history.

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Matt's avatar

Projection is exactly how you defined it A+ . Glad you agree on girl power 💪🏻 but you didn’t address the fact that your response was defensive as opposed to Dr Vinall which was more of what I would expect from a professional …. could you analyze this conundrum ?

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Dr. Bronce Rice's avatar

I've already offered my analysis, projection is my professional opinion Matt and you can call it defensive, however, saying it and thinking it in your mind doesn't make it the truth in the real world.

I find it important to stand up to bullies.

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Matt's avatar

Well you’re still not answering the reason why you took offense and Dr Vinall didn’t . Perhaps self analysis on that will help you grow in your practice . Just because you have a doctorate doesn’t necessarily make you a good reader of humans , hence the defensive approach to my initial post . It is the primordial extremes between man & woman . The Neanderthal response speaks volumes to the state of OUR planet - testosterone driven toxic male culture will ultimately destroy our species. Use this dialogue as a learning opportunity to add to your credentials. COMPASSION & EMPATHY in your practice will bring you to a new level - take it from a wise and knowledgeable old man 🕉️🌈🏳️‍🌈❤️

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Matt's avatar

I find it fascinating that your response to my comments were on opposite ends of the spectrum compared to Dr. Deborah Vinall . Two amazing examples of how we read into comments . One takes offense and one empathizes and handles it with empathy & compassion. Just a nano take on the differences between men & women

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Dr. Bronce Rice's avatar

I like the way you think Faisal! or should I say experience...

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